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	<title>Comments on: Alice Stewart and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://dervala.net/2004/02/17/alice-stewart-and-sudden-infant-death-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed up on one part of Alice Stewart's hypothesis, namely, as posted by Dervala, "the proportion of fetal hemoglobin in the bloodstream for healthy children versus (later) SIDS victims."

Using measurements of newborn hemoglobin concentration for roughly 3 million infants, I noted a positive relationship with risk of subsequent sudden infant death.  For more information see  (David B. Richardson, Steve Wing, Fred Lorey, and Irva Hertz-Picciotto.  Adult Hemoglobin Levels at Birth and Risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.  Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med, Apr 2004; 158: 366 - 371.

I would be interested in the basis for Kevin's assertion that people (infants or otherwise) with abnormally elevated fetal hemoglobins are not at increased risk of infection. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed up on one part of Alice Stewart&#8217;s hypothesis, namely, as posted by Dervala, &#8220;the proportion of fetal hemoglobin in the bloodstream for healthy children versus (later) <span class="caps">SIDS</span> victims.&#8221;</p>
<p>Using measurements of newborn hemoglobin concentration for roughly 3 million infants, I noted a positive relationship with risk of subsequent sudden infant death.  For more information see  (David B. Richardson, Steve Wing, Fred Lorey, and Irva Hertz-Picciotto.  Adult Hemoglobin Levels at Birth and Risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.  Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med, Apr 2004; 158: 366 &#8211; 371.</p>
<p>I would be interested in the basis for Kevin&#8217;s assertion that people (infants or otherwise) with abnormally elevated fetal hemoglobins are not at increased risk of infection.</p>
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		<title>By: Elly</title>
		<link>http://dervala.net/2004/02/17/alice-stewart-and-sudden-infant-death-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Elly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's fair to say that Gayle Green was in awe of Alice and that this does not make for a 100% objective view.  However Alice was an awe inspiring woman and a large part of the book was based on face to face interviews with her.  

It's also fair to suggest that some of her theories do not or will not hold water in the future.  Few scientists have obtained this in a lifetimes work.

However to focus on her theories about SIDS we risk dismissing her importance by missing much of her other groundbreaking work.

For those who are interested and are in the UK at the time there is a conference commemorating her life and work on the 3rd March this year.

http://medweb5.bham.ac.uk/histmed/alicestewart

I of course have a vested interest in promoting her but I'd urge anyone with an interest to read Gayle's book and see for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fair to say that Gayle Green was in awe of Alice and that this does not make for a 100% objective view.  However Alice was an awe inspiring woman and a large part of the book was based on face to face interviews with her.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also fair to suggest that some of her theories do not or will not hold water in the future.  Few scientists have obtained this in a lifetimes work.</p>
<p>However to focus on her theories about <span class="caps">SIDS</span> we risk dismissing her importance by missing much of her other groundbreaking work.</p>
<p>For those who are interested and are in the UK at the time there is a conference commemorating her life and work on the 3rd March this year.</p>
<p><a href="http://medweb5.bham.ac.uk/histmed/alicestewart" rel="nofollow">http://medweb5.bham.ac.uk/histmed/alicestewart</a></p>
<p>I of course have a vested interest in promoting her but I&#8217;d urge anyone with an interest to read Gayle&#8217;s book and see for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems hard to find an objective view of Alice Stewart's work, but this review of "Woman Who Knew Too Much" seems open-minded:

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0952-4746/20/4/703</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems hard to find an objective view of Alice Stewart&#8217;s work, but this review of &#8220;Woman Who Knew Too Much&#8221; seems open-minded:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0952-4746/20/4/703" rel="nofollow">http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0952-4746/20/4/703</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dervala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dervala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin,

Greetings, fellow Crescent grad! Thanks for commenting. I take it you're a scientist, so I want to take the chance to ask some lay questions to make this clearer for myself. Feel free to address or ignore depending on your time/expertise.

1. What are the theories on why SIDS is dropping? Is it behavioural? (All the sleeping position stuff?)

2. Is myeloid leukemia also dropping with more common forms?

3. Alice didn't claim that abnormal hemoglobin leads to infections, rather that it was an indicator of underlying latent leukemia, which might/would compromise the immune system. Is that not correct? 

4. As far as I understand it, as an epidemiologist rather than a hematologist, she looked for broad, statistically significant correlations rather than clinical diagnoses in individual cases. Her x-ray research, for example, showed that fetal exposure to x-rays increased the likelihood of developing cancer, but not that it inevitably did, or indeed that all cancers came from x-rays. Might not SIDS have several possible causes, of which latent myeloid leukemia could be one? And might not the behavioural changes be helping protect these children from further respiratory stresses (which, I guess, would lead to them living to develop leukemia if her theory were correct)?

5. Do you know if any research has been done on the proportion of fetal hemoglobin in the bloodstream for healthy children versus (later) SIDS victims? Has myeloid leukemia been definitively ruled out, or are you saying that it's so far off-track that it's not worth the research $$$?

I ask because Alice seems to have been widely respected precisely for asking good questions and rigorously looking at the data, so I'd like to understand this better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>Greetings, fellow Crescent grad! Thanks for commenting. I take it you&#8217;re a scientist, so I want to take the chance to ask some lay questions to make this clearer for myself. Feel free to address or ignore depending on your time/expertise.</p>
<p>1. What are the theories on why <span class="caps">SIDS</span> is dropping? Is it behavioural? (All the sleeping position stuff?)</p>
<p>2. Is myeloid leukemia also dropping with more common forms?</p>
<p>3. Alice didn&#8217;t claim that abnormal hemoglobin leads to infections, rather that it was an indicator of underlying latent leukemia, which might/would compromise the immune system. Is that not correct? </p>
<p>4. As far as I understand it, as an epidemiologist rather than a hematologist, she looked for broad, statistically significant correlations rather than clinical diagnoses in individual cases. Her x-ray research, for example, showed that fetal exposure to x-rays increased the likelihood of developing cancer, but not that it inevitably did, or indeed that all cancers came from x-rays. Might not <span class="caps">SIDS</span> have several possible causes, of which latent myeloid leukemia could be one? And might not the behavioural changes be helping protect these children from further respiratory stresses (which, I guess, would lead to them living to develop leukemia if her theory were correct)?</p>
<p>5. Do you know if any research has been done on the proportion of fetal hemoglobin in the bloodstream for healthy children versus (later) <span class="caps">SIDS</span> victims? Has myeloid leukemia been definitively ruled out, or are you saying that it&#8217;s so far off-track that it&#8217;s not worth the research $$$?</p>
<p>I ask because Alice seems to have been widely respected precisely for asking good questions and rigorously looking at the data, so I&#8217;d like to understand this better!</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leukemia rates have been stable in recent years while SIDS incidence has significantly decreased.

gathering data is easy - asking appropriate questions, and rigorously evaluating the data to see if it is consistent, is much harder. 

Children with abnormal hemoglobin are not at increased risk of infection as a direct consequence of this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leukemia rates have been stable in recent years while <span class="caps">SIDS</span> incidence has significantly decreased.</p>
<p>gathering data is easy &#8211; asking appropriate questions, and rigorously evaluating the data to see if it is consistent, is much harder. </p>
<p>Children with abnormal hemoglobin are not at increased risk of infection as a direct consequence of this!</p>
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		<title>By: moose</title>
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		<dc:creator>moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many questions. So SIDS rates have gone down over the last 5 years in the US. I wonder what the leukemia rates have done? Also, I wonder about the role education for new parents in preventive measures -- and concerted efforts to educate have indeed been made over the last several years -- has played. If you alert parents to the environmental risk factors (exposure to colds, lying face down, etc) and those are then lowered, wouldn't SIDS rates go down even if the underlying causal problem (immune system, hemoglobin or whatever it is) still was in place? Isn't it possible that the triggering mechanism, if you will, was simply removed? Also, I'm no scientist, but couldn't part of her theory could be correct without the rest of it being correct? What if it's not leukemia per se, but does involve a delayed transition from fetal to adult hemoglobin, leaving the infant vulnerable during those first six months until that transition is finally made? When you've got 3 out 1,000 dying every year, doesn't it make sense to gather all the data you can?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many questions. So <span class="caps">SIDS</span> rates have gone down over the last 5 years in the US. I wonder what the leukemia rates have done? Also, I wonder about the role education for new parents in preventive measures &#8212; and concerted efforts to educate have indeed been made over the last several years &#8212; has played. If you alert parents to the environmental risk factors (exposure to colds, lying face down, etc) and those are then lowered, wouldn&#8217;t <span class="caps">SIDS</span> rates go down even if the underlying causal problem (immune system, hemoglobin or whatever it is) still was in place? Isn&#8217;t it possible that the triggering mechanism, if you will, was simply removed? Also, I&#8217;m no scientist, but couldn&#8217;t part of her theory could be correct without the rest of it being correct? What if it&#8217;s not leukemia per se, but does involve a delayed transition from fetal to adult hemoglobin, leaving the infant vulnerable during those first six months until that transition is finally made? When you&#8217;ve got 3 out 1,000 dying every year, doesn&#8217;t it make sense to gather all the data you can?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Goldbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Goldbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice Stewart deserves more credit. I'm reminded of a tract called "Abuse of Women" where it is written

Of all creatures women be best,
Cuius contrarium verum est.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice Stewart deserves more credit. I&#8217;m reminded of a tract called &#8220;Abuse of Women&#8221; where it is written</p>
<p>Of all creatures women be best,<br />
Cuius contrarium verum est.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Alice Stewarts theories were correct, the incidence of SIDS would not have shown such a dramatic decline in recent years in the US - http://www.sids.org/annualrates.htm.

That is probably the reason for the lack of interest!

Kevin Horgan
Crescent College 1970-76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Alice Stewarts theories were correct, the incidence of <span class="caps">SIDS</span> would not have shown such a dramatic decline in recent years in the US &#8211; <a href="http://www.sids.org/annualrates.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sids.org/annualrates.htm</a>.</p>
<p>That is probably the reason for the lack of interest!</p>
<p>Kevin Horgan<br />
Crescent College 1970-76</p>
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