Comments on: Lost In Translation http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/ A love letter Mon, 21 May 2012 17:17:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Dervala http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-505 Dervala Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:06:24 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-505 It did win Best Screenplay! (That's what I was hoping for.) Dunno that either a movie or a novel is always necessarily epic as a form, though LOTR certainly is. I confess LOTR movies make me yawn more than LTR, though I think they're fascinating as studies of the First World War experience. Tolkien was a veteran, and I think its written all over his themes. It did win Best Screenplay! (That’s what I was hoping for.) Dunno that either a movie or a novel is always necessarily epic as a form, though LOTR certainly is. I confess LOTR movies make me yawn more than LTR, though I think they’re fascinating as studies of the First World War experience. Tolkien was a veteran, and I think its written all over his themes.

]]> By: eoin http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-504 eoin Mon, 01 Mar 2004 00:39:26 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-504 Well, it didn't, and Tom's cursing. I was happy enough with the winners tonight except for Renee Zellweger and/or anything from Cold Mountain ( Marcia or Shohreh Aghdashloo , OR Patricia Clarkson would have been better) As for Lost In Translation, I saw it on it's opening day in October and I don't remember that much about it 'cept it was rather slight, and as my friend remarked afterwards "They couldn't sleep. I couldn't stay awake". These short story type movies can never expect to win against a juguarnaught like LOTR, and maybe that is to the best - a movie is naturally epic - a novel rather than a New Yorker short. Well, it didn’t, and Tom’s cursing.

I was happy enough with the winners tonight except for Renee Zellweger and/or anything from Cold Mountain ( Marcia or Shohreh Aghdashloo , OR Patricia Clarkson would have been better)

As for Lost In Translation, I saw it on it’s opening day in October and I don’t remember that much about it ‘cept it was rather slight, and as my friend remarked afterwards “They couldn’t sleep. I couldn’t stay awake”.

These short story type movies can never expect to win against a juguarnaught like LOTR, and maybe that is to the best – a movie is naturally epic – a novel rather than a New Yorker short.

]]> By: Tom Shugart http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-503 Tom Shugart Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:34:37 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-503 Oscar parties--I love 'em--and am hosting a modest one this year. During the festivities, I'll give a tip of my glass eastward toward Brooklyn in honor of your return to our shores. And if Lost In Translation doesn't win, I'll join you in a curse on the Academy. Oscar parties—I love ‘em—and am hosting a modest one this year. During the festivities, I’ll give a tip of my glass eastward toward Brooklyn in honor of your return to our shores. And if Lost In Translation doesn’t win, I’ll join you in a curse on the Academy.

]]> By: Justin http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-502 Justin Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:18:50 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-502 Yep, that was Scarlett's bum in the opening shot -- no stunt bum involved! Agreed BTW about _Lost in Translation_ -- one of the best movies in years, by far (the soundtrack album is great, too). But I really didn't like _Mulholland Drive_, possibly because it had been talked up so much in advance by a friend before I saw it. Same thing happened with Cronenberg's _Spider_ -- maybe I'm just oversensitive to overhype ;) Yep, that was Scarlett’s bum in the opening shot — no stunt bum involved!

Agreed BTW about Lost in Translation — one of the best movies in years, by far (the soundtrack album is great, too).

But I really didn’t like Mulholland Drive, possibly because it had been talked up so much in advance by a friend before I saw it. Same thing happened with Cronenberg’s Spider — maybe I’m just oversensitive to overhype ;)

]]> By: eoin http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-501 eoin Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:17:48 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-501 Acutally the reason I liked Mullholland Drive is becuase I understood it - unlike a lot of his movies. The first 2/3's were the guilty dream(s) of Diane Selwyn after she had authorized a hit on her ex-girlfriend Camilla. in this part everybody had positions and names messed up, and the hit didn't take place because of the accident. The last one third was the last days of diane's life before she killed herself, interspersed with flashbacks of their previous life together. The pivotal scene was the party in the Director's house ( a flashback) - which started Diane's descent into madness. Acutally the reason I liked Mullholland Drive is becuase I understood it – unlike a lot of his movies.

The first 2/3’s were the guilty dream(s) of Diane Selwyn after she had authorized a hit on her ex-girlfriend Camilla.

in this part everybody had positions and names messed up, and the hit didn’t take place because of the accident.

The last one third was the last days of diane’s life before she killed herself, interspersed with flashbacks of their previous life together. The pivotal scene was the party in the Director’s house ( a flashback) – which started Diane’s descent into madness.

]]> By: JS Sebastian http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-500 JS Sebastian Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:09:31 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-500 Lynch is pretty visceral, I don't think he likes his movies to admit of too much interpretation, cerebrally. Lynch is pretty visceral, I don’t think he likes his movies to admit of too much interpretation, cerebrally.

]]> By: Dervala http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-499 Dervala Sat, 28 Feb 2004 06:25:45 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-499 Yes, her padding was wonderful. She looked very real; her body matched her lips. Though now you say it, the bottom in the pink Cosabella knickers was probably not hers... See, your view of Mulholland Drive I have total respect for, Darren. It is an odd movie, and it just happened to click for me because my brain works that way too, so the meanderings made perfect sense. I don't expect everyone to enjoy it that way, but it bugged me when the bossy, factual sorts dismissed it as balderdash. If I ever get to Vancouver I'll bore you with my interpretation of it. Yes, her padding was wonderful. She looked very real; her body matched her lips. Though now you say it, the bottom in the pink Cosabella knickers was probably not hers…

See, your view of Mulholland Drive I have total respect for, Darren. It is an odd movie, and it just happened to click for me because my brain works that way too, so the meanderings made perfect sense. I don’t expect everyone to enjoy it that way, but it bugged me when the bossy, factual sorts dismissed it as balderdash. If I ever get to Vancouver I’ll bore you with my interpretation of it.

]]> By: Darren http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-498 Darren Sat, 28 Feb 2004 03:27:32 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-498 One of the things I liked about 'Lost in Translation' was that Scarlet Johannsen had hips. Compared to the average skeletal ingenue, she was positively normal. Mind you, somebody suggested that she had a body-double for that loving opening shot. So, I'm not sure if that sends the right message or not. I pride myself on being a dedicated cineaste (and I'm snobby enough to use that term), but I was truly flummoxed by Mulholland Drive. I spent a long time trying to puzzle through it, but never got very far. In truth, there's probably no code to crack--but I'd have appreciated it if Lynch had thrown us a few more clues. Or maybe I'm just obtuse. One of the things I liked about ‘Lost in Translation’ was that Scarlet Johannsen had hips. Compared to the average skeletal ingenue, she was positively normal. Mind you, somebody suggested that she had a body-double for that loving opening shot. So, I’m not sure if that sends the right message or not.

I pride myself on being a dedicated cineaste (and I’m snobby enough to use that term), but I was truly flummoxed by Mulholland Drive. I spent a long time trying to puzzle through it, but never got very far. In truth, there’s probably no code to crack—but I’d have appreciated it if Lynch had thrown us a few more clues. Or maybe I’m just obtuse.

]]> By: Dervala http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Dervala Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:56:44 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-497 Yikes, I'm never into the 'speaks exclusively to women angle', sorry if it came across that way. Most movies about women don't speak to me at all, for some reason. I'd hope that anyone could enjoy the movie, though not all do, and taking off my Woman hat (ahem) I'd still love it. I hope and believe men like LiT to, for Bill Murray and My Bloody Valentine if nothing else. I felt surprised and exhilarated that Lynch captured some aspects of a (this?) woman's subconscious so well. Or perhaps that he captured a subconscious, full stop. (As does Molly Bloom's soliloquy.) At the time I became enfuriated with people who didn't get it and were loudly rude about it; there were plenty. I mentioned MH, I think, to illustrate that female filmmakers don't have a monopoly on female characters. Yikes, I’m never into the ‘speaks exclusively to women angle’, sorry if it came across that way. Most movies about women don’t speak to me at all, for some reason. I’d hope that anyone could enjoy the movie, though not all do, and taking off my Woman hat (ahem) I’d still love it. I hope and believe men like LiT to, for Bill Murray and My Bloody Valentine if nothing else.

I felt surprised and exhilarated that Lynch captured some aspects of a (this?) woman’s subconscious so well. Or perhaps that he captured a subconscious, full stop. (As does Molly Bloom’s soliloquy.) At the time I became enfuriated with people who didn’t get it and were loudly rude about it; there were plenty.

I mentioned MH, I think, to illustrate that female filmmakers don’t have a monopoly on female characters.

]]> By: eoin http://dervala.net/2004/02/27/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-496 eoin Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:45:33 +0000 http://dervala.net/?p=552#comment-496 Why did Mulholland Drive speak to you as a woman in particular, Dervala. I know it had some Nancy Drewish qualities to it, but beyond that? I believe by the way that it was one of the best movies of the decade. It's just that I don't see the "speaks to women exclusively angle". Men can appreicate lesbian love scenes as well as anybody, is what I'm saying ( somewhat tongue in cheek). Why did Mulholland Drive speak to you as a woman in particular, Dervala. I know it had some Nancy Drewish qualities to it, but beyond that?

I believe by the way that it was one of the best movies of the decade. It’s just that I don’t see the “speaks to women exclusively angle”. Men can appreicate lesbian love scenes as well as anybody, is what I’m saying ( somewhat tongue in cheek).

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